Comments on: Trying TextMate http://www.eriksmartt.com/blog/archives/138 my little chunk of bandwidth Tue, 27 Dec 2011 16:52:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4-alpha-19854 By: erik http://www.eriksmartt.com/blog/archives/138#comment-52 erik Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:48:50 +0000 http://www.eriksmartt.com/blog/?p=138#comment-52 Thanks for the links Ben! It's been awhile since I've looked at OS X builds of Emacs, but I've never really been into Emacs. I've tried to adopt it in the past, but since I've been using vi for, hmm, fifteen years now (wow, has it been that long?), it's already my terminal-editor of choice. I'm probably in vim at some point nearly every day, so instead of learning another set of editing/meta commands, I find it easier to bounce between vim and GUI text editors that use common OS X bindings. Your point is well taken though -- Emacs is a seriously powerful text editor (or, as I've heard it said, a pretty nice operating system with a text editor built in ;-) It's always amazing to watch people code in Emacs who really grok Emacs. And for other readers, if you don't know vi(m) or Emacs, I suggest learning at least one of them if you're planning to grow your unix-fu. On a related note, I actually don't like the GUI builds of vim. I'm not sure why -- I think it's because it looks like an OS X app, but doesn't work like an OS X app. Plus, a Carbon build of vim doesn't really offer much more then you can already do from the Terminal. Thanks for the links Ben! It’s been awhile since I’ve looked at OS X builds of Emacs, but I’ve never really been into Emacs. I’ve tried to adopt it in the past, but since I’ve been using vi for, hmm, fifteen years now (wow, has it been that long?), it’s already my terminal-editor of choice. I’m probably in vim at some point nearly every day, so instead of learning another set of editing/meta commands, I find it easier to bounce between vim and GUI text editors that use common OS X bindings.

Your point is well taken though — Emacs is a seriously powerful text editor (or, as I’ve heard it said, a pretty nice operating system with a text editor built in ;-) It’s always amazing to watch people code in Emacs who really grok Emacs. And for other readers, if you don’t know vi(m) or Emacs, I suggest learning at least one of them if you’re planning to grow your unix-fu.

On a related note, I actually don’t like the GUI builds of vim. I’m not sure why — I think it’s because it looks like an OS X app, but doesn’t work like an OS X app. Plus, a Carbon build of vim doesn’t really offer much more then you can already do from the Terminal.

]]> By: Ben Bangert http://www.eriksmartt.com/blog/archives/138#comment-45 Ben Bangert Sat, 09 Jul 2005 03:04:04 +0000 http://www.eriksmartt.com/blog/?p=138#comment-45 Have you tried Carbon Emacs? It has text editing modes for everything out there, even obscure ones. It'll even properly edit svn files in remote directories that are checked out on remote servers via ssh. (Useful for when the code only runs on a different machine) The Tiger and Panther package that gives you a handy .app can be found here: http://home.att.ne.jp/alpha/z123/emacs-mac-e.html As you're likely already used to emacs bindings from using OSX, its pretty quick to get started with, and I've yet to find anything that can live up to its usefulness. I've made a emacs config file that has it using an OSX font and syntax hilighting colors along the lines of BBEdit here: http://osx.groovie.org/archives/app_51.html I've tried TextMate, and found it rather nice as well, just waiting on the ability to correctly edit remote svn files. It's also hard to pluck down $50 bucks when emacs still works so well... Have you tried Carbon Emacs? It has text editing modes for everything out there, even obscure ones. It’ll even properly edit svn files in remote directories that are checked out on remote servers via ssh. (Useful for when the code only runs on a different machine)

The Tiger and Panther package that gives you a handy .app can be found here:
http://home.att.ne.jp/alpha/z123/emacs-mac-e.html

As you’re likely already used to emacs bindings from using OSX, its pretty quick to get started with, and I’ve yet to find anything that can live up to its usefulness. I’ve made a emacs config file that has it using an OSX font and syntax hilighting colors along the lines of BBEdit here:
http://osx.groovie.org/archives/app_51.html

I’ve tried TextMate, and found it rather nice as well, just waiting on the ability to correctly edit remote svn files. It’s also hard to pluck down $50 bucks when emacs still works so well…

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